tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3586507643754859034.post2374032353800794519..comments2023-10-22T12:22:54.333+02:00Comments on The Official Blog for ADOM (Ancient Domains Of Mystery): ADOM II movement keys on notebooksThe Creatorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12906302439863860854noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3586507643754859034.post-90277418290251674522013-08-05T16:22:40.185+02:002013-08-05T16:22:40.185+02:00Shift & Ctrl are a better choice than Ctrl &am...Shift & Ctrl are a better choice than Ctrl & Alt, for a laptop AND a station.damiencasonihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18412999688620207248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3586507643754859034.post-23544308876363194212012-07-09T14:39:26.394+02:002012-07-09T14:39:26.394+02:00Actually, some roguelikes use a system which is si...Actually, some roguelikes use a system which is similar, but different: Shift and Ctrl are used to change left/right to diagonals. It is playable with one hand on my laptop (it seems different on Mac keyboards, but it's their fault).<br /><br />Anyway, I recommend using it, better to use someone else's standard (I think it was invented in Infra Arcana) than to introduce a new one.Zeno Roguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16264989425985464380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3586507643754859034.post-75375463999123601282012-05-10T07:05:00.373+02:002012-05-10T07:05:00.373+02:00I approve of this solution but would also request ...I approve of this solution but would also request for CTRL and ALT to act as up and down modifiers respectively. This would mean that CTRL+LEFT=north-west, CTRL+RIGHT=north-east, ALT+LEFT=south-west, ALT+RIGHT=south-east. From your post it seems these combinations have not yet been bound to anything so adding these combinations would appeal to those who view CTRL and ALT as UP/DOWN instead of LEFT/RIGHT.pnuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18086000720080633764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3586507643754859034.post-47435996991149077312012-05-09T20:09:34.340+02:002012-05-09T20:09:34.340+02:00I would appreciate, if you could share them :)
I l...I would appreciate, if you could share them :)<br />I lost mine, and stopped playing adom just out of extreme laziness for redoing them.@PunkCapitalisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10395471143007956378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3586507643754859034.post-89828092003269224792012-05-09T12:45:34.537+02:002012-05-09T12:45:34.537+02:00>Let's face it, serious ADOM II players wil...>Let's face it, serious ADOM II players will want a proper numpad, whilst laptop users are likely to be more casual players who would probably prefer just 4-way movement.<br /><br />The casual players will still need (and I mean "need") the 8-way movement/aiming in ADOM when they're surrounded or when the only way forward is through a diagonal hole, so the argument doesn't stand at all.moozoohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05610844961569515228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3586507643754859034.post-4219878348237188702012-05-09T12:42:46.407+02:002012-05-09T12:42:46.407+02:00Been a while since I last posted here... Anyway, I...Been a while since I last posted here... Anyway, I find the solution very elegant. Beats using the Fn key for sure!moozoohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05610844961569515228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3586507643754859034.post-42267332866910000602012-05-09T01:01:23.020+02:002012-05-09T01:01:23.020+02:00Indeed it is a difficult plight!Indeed it is a difficult plight!Tollhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08986559643244034912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3586507643754859034.post-17147049761658959332012-05-08T20:46:13.771+02:002012-05-08T20:46:13.771+02:00That's why the ADOM II keybindings are optimiz...That's why the ADOM II keybindings are optimized for me ;-)The Creatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12906302439863860854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3586507643754859034.post-61752814411395367692012-05-08T20:45:36.197+02:002012-05-08T20:45:36.197+02:00LOL!LOL!The Creatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12906302439863860854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3586507643754859034.post-7368044205737458852012-05-08T20:45:14.709+02:002012-05-08T20:45:14.709+02:00I'm right now learning that almost every non-l...I'm right now learning that almost every non-letter seems to be hard to press on some foreign keyboard... something I never considered. '#' on German keyboards is just one key press, '$' is Shift+4. I guess I will remove all those special characters from the next version of the ADOM II keybindings and replace them with something more straight forward...The Creatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12906302439863860854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3586507643754859034.post-45151479378875164362012-05-08T20:43:32.459+02:002012-05-08T20:43:32.459+02:00As I said... it's for notebooks. I don't s...As I said... it's for notebooks. I don't see a better solution. Specific ideas are welcome.<br /><br />I agree though on reducing the total number of keys. 'u'se already can be used to read scrolls and books, eat food, drink potions, use tools, ... (and later on zap wands, etc.). Since you have more choices though 'u'se usually required more interaction and using the specialized commands can be faster. Thus I personally believe that "fewer keys" does not necessarily equate to "better".The Creatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12906302439863860854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3586507643754859034.post-67298699926924403522012-05-08T20:18:47.825+02:002012-05-08T20:18:47.825+02:00One interesting thing the roguelike Hydra Slayer d...One interesting thing the roguelike Hydra Slayer does is give you the option of 8-way or 4-way movement. Depending on what you choose all controls, spells, monster abilities and FOV are changed to match that movement type.<br /><br />Let's face it, serious ADOM II players will want a proper numpad, whilst laptop users are likely to be more casual players who would probably prefer just 4-way movement.Darren Greyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00792164422274663420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3586507643754859034.post-46645618583853637102012-05-08T19:56:55.063+02:002012-05-08T19:56:55.063+02:00You can also use some touchpad gestures (like two ...You can also use some touchpad gestures (like two finders sliding to move in appropriate direction). Or may be just tapping touchpad can move you in appropriate direction (e.g. left top corner - north west direction, top center - north direction, etc)?vichqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13811616030688855542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3586507643754859034.post-48744396949027962422012-05-08T19:47:37.881+02:002012-05-08T19:47:37.881+02:00Personally, I view the keybinding issue as a probl...Personally, I view the keybinding issue as a problem with your macintosh, not with ADOM ;-)anoddladhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09227191193335010364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3586507643754859034.post-9204356902331053832012-05-08T19:21:03.891+02:002012-05-08T19:21:03.891+02:00Long ago, in the mists of time (so a few years bac...Long ago, in the mists of time (so a few years back), I redefined my keys for ADOM to VI keys, and managed to keep a lot of the old keybindings. I could put my adom.kbd up somewhere if you'd like to look at it.Octogenarihexate!https://www.blogger.com/profile/01592496526383798406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3586507643754859034.post-91609283138360178862012-05-08T09:55:30.652+02:002012-05-08T09:55:30.652+02:00I'm still unable to use the dollar sign with e...I'm still unable to use the dollar sign with either a Finnish or English keyboard (Finnish Win7). Pressing 'k' after the dollar always results in an attempted kick.<br /><br />If you are not planning to use the 'q' for anything, consider replacing '#' with it. The w# is a bit cumbersome.iffihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08652792629332562944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3586507643754859034.post-69255942267906379702012-05-08T09:44:16.097+02:002012-05-08T09:44:16.097+02:00And by keyboard I mean laptop.And by keyboard I mean laptop.iron cashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15409163609412322693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3586507643754859034.post-58762328502866399962012-05-08T09:43:30.809+02:002012-05-08T09:43:30.809+02:00I like it, seems logical to me. Though I made sur...I like it, seems logical to me. Though I made sure I got my keyboard with a numeric keyboard... 'cus I'm a a nerd, and crazy addicted to adom.iron cashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15409163609412322693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3586507643754859034.post-36486297841087768722012-05-08T09:35:58.368+02:002012-05-08T09:35:58.368+02:00Hmm it still seems like ADOM uses excessive amount...Hmm it still seems like ADOM uses excessive amounts of keys that can be greatly reduced through the use of situational keys, 1 key that does many different things based on what is currently available to player and imidiate surroundings. 'g'ive shouldn't need a stand-alone key for example, how often do you need to give something to someone. Does it warrent its own key? These sorts of things may be the comprimising you need to make for a compact keyboard.<br /><br />Using Ctrl and Alt as modifiers to do something as common as moving diagonally seems very inelegant.<br /><br />Certainly a problem that will need to be overcome for version 1.Tollhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08986559643244034912noreply@blogger.com